Organize the web stories, info on the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) troubles: Property Ownership, Church Withdrawals, Ordination Standards, Hierarchical vs. Connectional.
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
Voting Tuesday: Detroit and Lehigh
| Presbytery | 2009 Vote | 2001 Vote |
|---|---|---|
| Detroit | 141-92 (replace) | 48%-52% (keep) |
| Lehigh | 60-46 (replace) | 45%-55% (keep) |
Lehigh has sent out a special letter about the 2 min per side, until one side runs out of speakers or 50 minutes. Their agenda shows a 5:00 starting time for debate.
Detroit has an interesting agenda:
CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENT B 4:40 Description of the process and expectations. Moderator (15) 4:55 The Constitutional history and consequences (15) Stated Clerk 5:10 Presentation of the cases (20) Pro: (5) The Rev Mary Austin Con: (5) The Rev. Johnie Bennett Pro: (5) Elder John Lovegren (Detroit, Jefferson Avenue) Con (5) Elder Francile Anderson (Waterford, Community) 5:30 Recess to Kaleidoscope Bible Study Groups 5:40 Convene Small group discussion (Kaleidoscope Bible Study) (60) 6:40-7:40 p.m. (Special order of the day) WE SHARE GOD’S BOUNTY Dinner & Fellowship—Table and room reservations available for small groups 7:40 Small groups reconvene (30) “I intend to vote (yes/no) because _______.” “I am not sure how I will vote because ______.” “Other “I” statements or “pass.” 8:10 Reconvene in Plenary (Special Order of the Day) 8:10 D. Coordinating Cabinet: Rev. Sue Ellis Melrose Debate on whether we shall approve Amendment B. (limited to 2 minutes) (30) 8:40 Vote by ballot
Translate Liberal Speak
Translation:
We have driven out those who disagree with us, by voting on this, over and over and over again. Sometimes they left one family at at a time, sometimes a whole church. Many times we where able to steal their property as well. We made up the rules as we went along, since we have no higher power than ourselves. We will vote again, break the rules, bend the rules and harass and call names those who speak out against us.
More Hanging Chads for PCUSA
One blog happened to mention that the Presbytery of San Francisco vote was 167-177-4. This changed %No from 51.45% to 52.01% or 167-181. I hope each and every clerk (Presbytery, Session, ...) knows better and it is only the web sites that are sloppy in their reporting.
By my count 6 Presbyteries are in the 2% difference bracket. Could any of these votes be invalid?
Saturday, April 25, 2009
Saturday Results - IT IS DONE 69-88-1
- Northern Plains: 21-33: NO
- Boise: 25-34: NO
- De Cristos: 59-48: YES
- Sierra Blanca: 23-30 NO
News Coverage:
- FORBES (AP - short)Presbyterians reject gay clergy, but vote closer
- Dickinson Pres (Longer AP)Presbyterians reject gay clergy, but vote closer
- Christian Post: PC(USA) Presbyteries Vote to Keep Fidelity, Chastity Requirement
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
When is a web page not a web page?
Details: Sometimes website work by accident. Web programmers/admins, etc. have gotten lazy or complacent, and still thinks the web revolves around Microsoft's Internet Explorer(IE). The latest figures show IE market penetration falling as fast as PCUSA membership. These figures are from March 2009 and represent Global usage. FF has about double the market share in Europe.
- 67% Microsoft's Internet Explorer(IE)
- 22% Mozilla's Firefox (FF)
- 8% Apple's Safari
- 1% Google Chrome - Beta
- 2% Other
What web pages have irritated me enough to write this blog entry?
- Presbyweb Vote Info Uses multiple tables to fake one table
- Bartlesville Sunfest Works on IE only
Monday, April 20, 2009
Saturday, April 4, 2009
Break Even
- San Jose: 84-81 (2001: 85-75)
- South Louisiana: 42-55 (2001: 51-71)
- Total 65-82
All-in-All, no change, but the "pro-equality" group can not afford to break even at this stage.
Next Up:
- Apr 17: Alaska
- Apr 21: National Capital, Salem, San Francisco, Wabash Valley
- Apr 25: Boise, de Cristo, Northern Plains, Sierra Blanca
- Apr 28: Detroit, Lehigh