Monday, January 30, 2012
Info Wanted: Whole Presbteries Leaving PCUSA
FPC Orlando votes to leave denomination
- 1,759 to 185 (91%)
- 3,600 members (55% voted)
- First Presbyterian Orlando, Fla
- largest Presbyterian church in Florida and fourth largest in the nation.
- March 3 Presbytery Votes
- Central Florida Presbytery
Thursday, January 26, 2012
Mass exodus of churches continue to flee PCUSA into 2012
On a Side Note: Wikipedia entry on ECO is already a battleground between those who feel it is homo-phobia vs those who think this is about multiple issues.
Bruce Reyes-Chow blogs about ECO.
My Thoughts on The Fellowship and The Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians
Ed: I've added some of his list of articles to mine.
Monday, January 23, 2012
PCUSA->EPC->ECO
Evangelical Covenant Order Of Presbyterians (ECO)
- Wikipedia: ECO
- The New American Story: Conservative Presbyterians Announce Break From Liberal PCUSA NEW
- Huff Post:
Evangelical Covenant Order Of Presbyterians (ECO), Conservative Denomination Launched To Break Away From PCUSA
ED: Caution a lot of hate speech in the comments section. - Christian Post: New Evangelical Presbyterian Body Unveiled
- Houston Cronicle Blog: Believe It or Not: New Presbyterian body could divide denomination
- Louisville, Ky Courier-Journal Faith Blog: New Presbyterian denomination named
- Orlando Sentinel: Presbyterian denomination debuts Thursday in Orlando
- Gant Daily(Clearfield, PA): Group leaves Presbyterian Church to form ‘reformed’ denomination
- Christianity Today: New Presbyterian Body Aims for Orthodoxy with Less Bureaucracy
- Religion News Service: Conservative Presbyterians Launch New Denomination
- Rueters: Presbyterian Group Breaks Away Over Gay Clergy
- John Shore:
New Anti-Gay Presbyterian Denomination: Cowardly Lions
ED: Caution a lot of hate speech in the story and comments section. - Viola Larson: ECO is a sign of Christ's love for the PC (U.S.A.)
- Don Sweeting: Wishing the ECO Well: Another Turning Point in Presbyterian Church History
- Laura Ziesel: Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians
- Denis Maher: Irony Abounds with the Formation of the Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians
- Ruth Hicks: I was there
- Katie Mulligan: Wipe the Dust
- Joanne Whitt: A Response to ECO
- David Williams: A Response to ECO
- Rocky Supinger: The Fellowship Theology Draft
- PCUSA News Service: 24 PC(USA) Leaders Issue ‘Letter of Reconciliation’
- ECO Retirement Plan Overview
- Evangelical Covenant Order (downloadable pdf of ECO’s vision and purpose)
- ECO Benefits
- ECO Benefits Presentation
- ECO Rate Sheet
- Polity
- Theology x
- Theology
- Press Release
- Peer review systems for churches
- Promoting leadership training
- Instituting a less hierarchical form of government
- Benefits have been defined, must be offered to all full time employees
- 2,100 Presbyterians from about 500 congregations attend the conference.
- Presbyterians have the option of joining the ECO or becoming an affiliate member while remaining in another denomination.
ED: I left out the stories full of hate speech, which is all the liberals can use.
ED: I don't think any of the stories brought up the fact that conservative churches in PCUSA, feel like prisoners or victims of blackmail. PCUSA is using the property clause as a ball and chain to keep churches in the denomination that want to leave as well as the power of an AC to summarily fire the pastor and elders.
Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Lebanon PC (Lebanon, Ohio ) dismissed to EPC.
- Lebanon Presbyterian Church (LPC)
- Presbytery of Miami Valley
- 205-year-old Lebanon, Ohio church
- 900-member church
- $34,148 to Miami Valley (per-capita payment for 2012)
- $15,000 to support an African medical mission
- Presbytery voted to dismiss Jan 13, 2012
- Layman Online Story: On Oct. 23, 2010, LPC voted 304-8 to leave
Friday, January 13, 2012
Gashland wins property-dispute appeal against Heartland Presbytery
- Gashland Presbyterian Church MO
- Heartland Presbytery
- September 2007, when Gashland requested dismissal
- After waiting four months, the church voted to disaffiliate from the denomination, leading Heartland to belatedly form an administrative commission to hold a dismissal hearing in April 2008.
- In November 2009, Heartland filed suit in circuit court.
- a 2009 lower-court dismissal
Federated congregation leaves PCUSA and is now an American Baptist church
Thursday, January 5, 2012
Saddlerock EPC (WA) celebrates dismissal from PCUSA
- Saddlerock Evangelical Presbyterian Church (FPC of Wenatchee)
- Presbytery of Central Washington
- 507 members in 2010 and brought in $795,557 in offerings
- Terms:
- That we give $175,000 as a mission/church development gift to the Presbytery;
- That we give $47,892 for three years of presbytery per capita;
- That we give up to $5,000 in reimbursable expenses from the [administrative commission];
- That we incur all costs associated with the legal transfer of our property, assets, and corporation;
- To concur with the requests of the Rev. Patrick McElroy and the Rev. Paul Pankey [the church’s associate pastor] continue in their current pastoral positions and to have their ordination credentials transferred in good standing from the Presbytery of Central Washington of the [PCUSA] to the Presbytery of the Pacific of [EPC], a recognized Reformed body in relationship with the PCUSA;
- That all records of the First Presbyterian Church of Wenatchee PCUSA and its predecessors be converted into microfiche at First Presbyterian’s expense for the Presbyterian Historical Society in Philadelphia.”
Wednesday, January 4, 2012
Fort Scott Kansas Pastor leaves First Presbyterian
This is the opposite of yesterdays story of a pastor leaving. He is a "member" of Fellowship of Presbyterians which is conservative.
Tuesday, January 3, 2012
Pastor breaks away to start own church
- Dave Weidlich, 56
- New Church: The Vine
- Supports Occupy Movement
Ed: Looks like a far left pastor, left a moderate church.
- Presbytery of Redstone
- voted to seize the keys of the church
- Covenant Presbyterian Church
- allegedly ignoring internal procedures for withdrawing from the presbytery.
- Ligonier, Pennsylvania
- 425 members
- The congregation of St. Francis in the Fields Episcopal Church near Somerset split off in 2008 and, more recently, members of Fort Palmer Church in Fairfield left the presbytery.
- Church lawyer says they followed procedure.
PCUSA pastors leaves to start new church instead of fighting.
- Presbyterian Church of the Covenant
- Wilmington, Delaware
- more than 300 members
- Pastor Kathi Busch is leaving to start a new church: River Crossing Fellowship.
- "To fight in court did not seem the loving thing to do," Busch said.
- New Castle Presbytery
Presbylaw temporary site.
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Legal Resource Databank | |
Chart: Churches leaving the PCUSA | |
Archives on property issues within the PCUSA | |
PCUSA: Legal Strategy #1 | |
PCUSA: Presbyteries Process #2 | |
PCUSA: Secret Document #3 |
Voting on PCUSA Admendments: Sources
Presbylaw temporary site.
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LINKS
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FEED | PCUSA List Feed | Atom Feed of Blog Posts |
PRESBYLAW webmaster | Comments, corrections, updates | |
NEWS | PRESBYWEB: Viewpoint | PCUSA Property Trust History Disputed By Jeffrey C. Francis |
Memorial Park on Seperation | Bulletin Insert for May 6th | |
Web | Kirk's Legal Docs (pdfs) | Kirk Of The Hills, Tulsa, OK |
PCUSA Articles of Incorporation | Churches can't be a member of the PCUSA according to its own articles of incorporation | |
Legal Strategy #1 | PC(USA)'s Legal Strategy for churches wanting to leave | |
Presbyteries Process #2 | PC(USA)'s Process for churches wanting to leave | |
Doc | Secret Document #3 | News about a third secret document |
Process | Administrative Review Process from the Synod of the Northeast | |
Presbytery Of New Covenant | Process For Addressing Churches Seeking To Withdraw From PC(USA) | |
Wabash Valley Presbytery | Separatist Task Force | |
Doc | PC(USA): Constitutional Musings: Note 12 | Responding Pastorally to Troubled Churches |
Doc | PC(USA): Advisory Opinions: Note 02 | Dissent and Defiance |
Doc | PC(USA): Advisory Opinions: Note 03 | Administrative Commission |
PC(USA): Advisory Opinions: Note 11 | Church Property | |
Doc | PC(USA): Advisory Opinions: Note 17 | Schism |
Doc | PC(USA): Advisory Opinions: Note 19 | Implementing the Trust Clause for the Unity of the Church |
Web | Presbyterian Outlook | Statement about resources prepared by the Constitutional Services Department and the Office of Legal Services at the General Assembly level of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) |
Web | Stated Clerk, GAC chief urge churches not to defect from PC(USA) | We are better together in Christ's Unity |
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PC(USA) News Service
Presbyterian Google News
IRD Presbyterian News
The Christian Post
Denominations
Denomination Name | Parent | Location | Size | Year |
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United Presbyterian Church in the U.S.A. - UPCUSA(N) | PUSA & UPCNA | New York City | 8,909/2,342,441 | 1958-1983 |
Presbyterian Church in United States (Confederate) - PCUS(S) | Presbyterian Church in United States | Atlanta, Ga. | 4,250/814,931 | 1861-1983 |
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) PC(U.S.A) | UPCUSA(N) & PCUS(S) | Louisville, Kentucky | 11,596/3,122,213 | June 10, 1983 |
Evangelical Presbyterian Church EPC | UPCUSA(N) & PCUS(S) | Livonia, MI | 67/19,000 (1982) | 1980/1981 |
Presbyterian Church of America PCA | PCUS(S) | Lawrenceville, GA | 260/41,232 | May 18, 1973 |
Orthodox Presbyterian Church | Presbyterian U.S.A. | Willow Grove, PA | 300/20,417 | 1936 |
Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church | Associate Presbytery/Reformed Presbytery | Greenville, SC | 250/40,392 | 1782 |
Links
LINKS
Type | Name | Description |
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News | Crosswalk | The Intersection of Faith and Life |
News | Church Report | National business news magazine |
News | PC(USA) News | Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) News Service |
News | Save Hollywood Pres | Links to news about PC(USA) Troubles |
News | The Layman Online | THE News Source about PC(USA) |
News | Layman - property | The Layman - Property Issues Archive |
Blog | Reformed Pastor | EPC Pastor - Church Planter |
Blog | Full Court Presby | Pastor Lance's Blog to his Congregation about PUP etc. |
Blog | Classical Presbyterian | Blogging for the Reformed Resistance in the PC(USA) |
Blog | Anderson Speak | Commentary on Faith, Christianity, and the PCUSA by Noel K. Anderson |
Blog | Bayou Christian | Bill Crawford, Pastor First Presbyterian Church of Thiboduax |
Blog | blog 137 | Pastor Dave Moody, Trinity United Presbyterian Church, Sparta, IL. |
Blog | Truth in Love Network | A group of Presbyterian elders who are concerned with the direction of the PC(USA). |
Blog | Mark D. Roberts | Professor & Senior Pastor of Irvine Presbyterian Church, CA |
Blog | Institute on Religion and Democracy | 25 years of working to reform the social and political witness of American churches |
Blog | The Berkley Blog | James D. Berkley, Director of Presbyterian Action |
Blog | Tom's Thoughts | Tom Gray, Co-Pastor, Kirk of the Hills, Tulsa, OK |
Web | Stand to Reason | Christian Ambassadors for defense for classical Christianity |
Web | Presbyterian Forum | Working for reformation through overt political action |
Web | Wiki:Presbyterian | Wikipedia's Presbyterian Overview |
Web | Kirk Of The Hills, Tulsa, OK | Church in Tulsa, OK - Fighting for its Property. |
Web | Kirk's Legal Docs (pdfs) | Kirk Of The Hills, Tulsa, OK |
Web | Kirk Docs (text) | Kirk Of The Hills docs, Converted to text |
Legal Strategy #1 | PC(USA)'s Legal Strategy for churches wanting to leave | |
Presbyteries Process #2 | PC(USA)'s Process for churches wanting to leave | |
Doc | Secret Document #3 | News about a third secret document |
Pic | Presby Chart 1 | Chart showing the history of breakups and mergers (standard) |
Web | Presby Chart 2 | Presbyterian Church History-Lesson 13-An Overview of Contemporary American Presbyterianism |
Web | Presby Chart 3 (text) | History of the Presbyterian Church (USA) |
Web | Presby Chart 4 | Denomination Family Trees (Interactive) |
Web | Presby Chart 5 | ARPC Denomination Family Tree |
Web | Maps of Religions | List of Many Maps of 2000 Census Data on Religion |
Pic | Map: County | Map of Denominations by County |
Pic | Map: Presbyterian | Map of Presbyterian's as percentage of Population |
Web | ARDA | Association of Religion Data Archives |
PPT | Report on PUP | New Wineskin's Report on PUP |
Report on PUP | New Wineskin's Report on PUP | |
Book of Order | Official PDF Copy of Book of Order for PC(USA) | |
Book of Confessions | Official PDF Copy of Book of Confessions for PC(USA) | |
Web | Advisory Opinions | PC(USA) Stated Clerk Advisory Opinions (not binding, nor authoritative) |
Web | PC(USA) Constitutional Musings | Office of Constitutional Services - Unofficial Thoughts |
Web | PC(USA) Amicus Curiae Briefs | Stated Clerk & AC on Litigation - Friend of the Court Briefs |
Web | GAPJC PC(USA) | PC(USA) General Assembly Permanent Judicial Commission Decisions |
Web | Pension Board PC(USA) | PC(USA) Board of Pensions |
Web | Foundation PC(USA) | Presbyterian Foundation, New Covenant Trust and New Covenant Mutual Funds |
Web | PC(USA) BOO Annotated | PC(USA) Book of Order - Annotated |
Web | Presbyterian Coalition | Working for a Revitalized Church |
Web | Confessing Church Movement | 1,314/434,697 |
Web | New Wineskins | New Wineskins Association of Churches(2001) |
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- PCA starts new downtown Oklahoma City church
- FPC Orlando votes to leave denomination
- Mass exodus of churches continue to flee PCUSA int...
- Bruce Reyes-Chow blogs about ECO.
- PCUSA->EPC->ECO
- Lebanon PC (Lebanon, Ohio ) dismissed to EPC.
- Gashland wins property-dispute appeal against Hear...
- Federated congregation leaves PCUSA and is now an ...
- Saddlerock EPC (WA) celebrates dismissal from PCUSA
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