Thursday, January 31, 2008

What is in a Name?

Here is a list of the frequency of words in the name of PC(USA) 10,655 churches, 3,633 different words (longer than 3 characters):
1first pc2,533
2westminster pc191
3community pc163
5trinity pc124
6covenant pc79
7first upc72
8grace pc64
9central pc62
10second pc60
11faith pc59
12bethany pc58
13calvary pc56
14bethel pc55
15korean pc46
16christ pc42
17northminster pc41
18st andrew pc37
19memorial pc29
20st andrews pc28
21new hope pc26
22eastminster pc25
23southminster pc23
24hope pc23
25immanuel pc20
26hopewell pc20
27ebenezer pc20
28third pc19
29knox pc19
30good shepherd pc19
31providence pc18
32john knox pc17
33bethesda pc17
34emmanuel pc16
35st james pc16
36calvin pc16
37concord pc16
38bethlehem pc16
39highland pc16
40salem pc15
41st paul pc15
42university pc14
43unity pc14
44heritage pc13
45mt pleasant pc13
46peace pc13
47john calvin pc13
48north pc12
49st pauls pc12
50faith upc12
51fairview pc12
52church of the covenant pc11
53st johns pc11
54pleasant grove pc11
55zion pc11
56harmony pc11
57korean upc10
58new covenant pc10
59trinity upc10
60grace covenant pc10

Friday, January 25, 2008

Additions to website - Top 50

On my page List of Synods/Presbyteries/Churches I have added a list of the Top 50 PC(USA) churches (as of 2006) by reported worship size. I have the highlighted those that are leaving in orange and the one hold back per-capita in yellow.

Presbyterians have Bishops??

This article on Memorial Park Presbyterian Church in Christian Today (Australia Edition) has what I hope is a typo. I emailed the website.

"James D. Berkley, Director of Institute on Religion and Democracy's Presbyterian Action Committee, said those who allowed the ordination of homosexual bishops within the denomination had capitulated to the spirit of the age while ignoring the clear and consistent witness of the Scripture."

Friday, January 11, 2008

Statistics of PCUSA

Check out my Synod/Presbytery page for more info. Of course these are 2006 numbers. If you have suggestions for additional lies, errr, statistics let me know. I have the raw data in three CSV files: synods, presbyteries, churches. Here is a summary:
  • Synods: 16
  • Presbyteries: 173
  • Churches: 10,697
  • Mega: (>2000) 9
  • Large:(>300) 750
  • Medium:(>50) 5,683
  • Small:(<50)> 4,255
  • Members: 2,238,880
  • Worship: 1,176,884
  • C Ed: 1,159,140
  • Contributions: $2,318,909,951 (2.3 BILLION)
  • Avg/Worshiper: $1,977
Note: For some reason Dakota (Native Americian) does not report numbers! 21 churches

Thursday, January 10, 2008

Website Status Updated

I was finally able to get to start on the REAL website, instead of blog. Thanks to ibiblio for their patience with me.

Also, I have a complete list of churches in PCUSA, along with membership, worship attendance, CE enrollment, and contributions. I will be placing them on the new website when it goes live. Meanwhile, I will place the summary per presbytery. It looks like the average is $2,000 per worshiper.

Wednesday, January 9, 2008

Are Canadian Presbyterians Splitting Too?

Canadian Press Story: ORO, Ont. - Trinity Presbyterian Church in Oro, south of Orillia, is working to rebuild its congregation after losing members to a rival church. About 200 people attended the first service following the departure of more than 1,000 worshippers to former minister Rev. Carey Nieuwhof's Connexus Community Church, reports the Presbyterian Record on its website. Guest ministers will lead Sunday worship over the next few weeks. The congregation is also providing a children's program and developing a youth program, church officials told the magazine. Givings have been strong, said Rob Ward, an adherent active in the revitalization of the church. "We are seeking His kingdom and He is building His church," said Ward. Preparing a budget that will permit the congregation to meet its operating costs is the most immediate challenge, he said. Ed: Should I add this church to my list? Are there other churches in Canada splitting? I added a link to the new church "website", blog

Sunday, January 6, 2008

Dismissial Negotiations Fail - Sessions calls for Disaffiliation

From the Pittsburg Post-Gazette Story: Church goes to court in bid to switch its affiliation.

Layman Story:

Friday, January 4, 2008

Convenant PC, Ft. Myers, Fl Calls for Vote

The Session of Covenant Presbyterian Church (Fort Myers, FL) by a vote of 21-1 has called for a congregational vote to dismiss to EPC on Feb 3, 2008. The next stated meeting of the Peace River Presbytery is Feb 28, 2008. The Church was founded in 1962 in the PCUS denomination. The PCUSA site list the members ship as 1,492 and worship size as 885. The synod is South Atlantic.

Interestingly, I only found out about this new development, because Charles Wiley (Coordinator, Office of Theology and Worship of the General Assembly Council, PC(USA) in Louisville, Ky.) complained about it in Presbyteran Outlook and was quoted in the Dec 24 blog of Presbyman (The Spoiled Dinner Party). Wiley's Post is also analyzed on the blog Recovering Presbyterian.

Found this 2003 Layman article about them no longer paying per-capita. So they have had integrity for some time.

Thursday, January 3, 2008

Poll Results: What Is the 10% of the Proprerty for leaving?

  • 64% (41)Blood Money!
  • 15% (10)Proper Compromise.
  • 14% ( 9)Not Enough.
  •  6% ( 4)Never let them Go!

Now that this is a post, PLEASE leave a comment about why you voted the way you did even if you did not vote.

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United Presbyterian Church in the U.S.A. - UPCUSA(N) PUSA & UPCNA New York City8,909/2,342,4411958-1983
Presbyterian Church in United States (Confederate) - PCUS(S) Presbyterian Church in United States Atlanta, Ga.4,250/814,9311861-1983
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) PC(U.S.A) UPCUSA(N) & PCUS(S) Louisville, Kentucky11,596/3,122,213June 10, 1983
Evangelical Presbyterian Church EPC UPCUSA(N) & PCUS(S) Livonia, MI67/19,000 (1982)1980/1981
Presbyterian Church of America PCA PCUS(S) Lawrenceville, GA260/41,232May 18, 1973
Orthodox Presbyterian Church Presbyterian U.S.A. Willow Grove, PA 300/20,417 1936
Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church Associate Presbytery/Reformed Presbytery Greenville, SC 250/40,392 1782



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