Monday, February 27, 2012

Statistcs Triva

Presbyteries: Peace River and San Diego have the highest worshiper per church ratio: 27,115 and 27,347 if my data is correct. Note: still working on data validity. I have my dynamic data web pages about 1/2 done.

Thursday, February 23, 2012

Statistics third try.

Fixed PCUSA totals. Added more info about sizes and broke up 100-500 into 100-250, 250-500. PCUSA Stats

Note: 52% of the members are in 12% of the churches (>500).

Note: 41% of the CHURCHES (<100) have 8.2% of the members.

Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Layman Story: Presbytery denied state Supreme Court hearing in Carrollton property dispute

Tuesday, February 21, 2012

Next Step - Statistics

Posted second step in statistics on this page: PCUSA Stats

Better Data, added 2000 and 2010 number for: Membership, Worship, Contributions.

Next Step: Add older data for 1985-2000 and some older churches. (Back to EPC founding.)

Wednesday, February 15, 2012

General Presbyter for the Presbytery of Charlotte Fired UPDATED

Charlotte Observer Story: Top Charlotte Presbyterian leader fired

NEW: Fired presbyter speaks out

  • Presbytery of Charlotte
  • Sam Roberson will receive a year's pay as severance.
  • The Presbytery covers seven counties
  • 40,000 church members
  • third largest presbytery.
  • his wife, Linda Sizoo is pastor of Grace Presbyterian Church, Fort Mill, SC.

Tuesday, February 14, 2012

2012 PCUSA Statistics First Pass

Over on another page: PCUSA Stats I put up my first cut at 2012 statistics. When I am done I will have 25 years of data to show.

2012 Highlights:

  • Pbys: 173
  • Churches 10,709
  • Members 2,643,609
  • Contributions: $2,000,077,327 - 2 Billion
  • 703 Churches with no members reported - Looks like data error.
  • 4,139 churches with members 1-99
  • 4,543 churches with members 100-500
  • 1,324 churches with members >500

Monday, February 6, 2012

Episcopal and FPC of Buffalo, NY to discuss sharing building.

Buffalo News: Venerable Protestant churches discuss uniting
  • Trinity Episcopal Church
  • First Presbyterian Church
  • "maintenance of the sprawling Byzantine-style church [...] is becoming a yolk around the shoulders of a congregation that would rather put its limited resources into keeping worship and music lively."
  • FPC needs a new roof and repointing work on the tower hundreds of thousands of dollars
  • using savings to cover operating expenses
  • In 2010, Trinity also received a grant of $526,796 from the state Environmental Protection Fund to repair or replace the roofs on its three buildings (ED: what? State support of a church?)

Several comments on the story, indicate that they want the state to interfere with how the church operates. The hairs on the back of my neck just stood up.

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United Presbyterian Church in the U.S.A. - UPCUSA(N) PUSA & UPCNA New York City8,909/2,342,4411958-1983
Presbyterian Church in United States (Confederate) - PCUS(S) Presbyterian Church in United States Atlanta, Ga.4,250/814,9311861-1983
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) PC(U.S.A) UPCUSA(N) & PCUS(S) Louisville, Kentucky11,596/3,122,213June 10, 1983
Evangelical Presbyterian Church EPC UPCUSA(N) & PCUS(S) Livonia, MI67/19,000 (1982)1980/1981
Presbyterian Church of America PCA PCUS(S) Lawrenceville, GA260/41,232May 18, 1973
Orthodox Presbyterian Church Presbyterian U.S.A. Willow Grove, PA 300/20,417 1936
Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church Associate Presbytery/Reformed Presbytery Greenville, SC 250/40,392 1782



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